Topic:

CREEDMORE/FREESTYLE POSITION

Discussion:
 

From rlderaud@anet.rockwell.com Robert L. De raud

I'm a little confused about this Creedmore position thing. As I read the NRA silhouette rulebook, I find a couple pages of somewhat anal-retentive discussion about what constitutes a legal or illegal standing position. But for freestyle, it says only something about safety and the 45-degree cone from the muzzle, which kind of fits with my preconceived notion of what "freestyle" means.

What I saw at the match, OTOH, was people either a) standing or b) lying on their backs in what I'm told is the Creedmore position (no further explanation given). I tried it, it's uncomfortable as all hell and, given that I'm left-eye-dominant, unlikely to make me shoot any better. What is it about this position that makes it especially good? (I assume it's either a) the best possible non-standing position or b) required by the rules; otherwise, *somebody* there would have been using something else. Do IMSHA rules define the "non-standing" position differently?)

A seated rifle-style position, left hand on fore-end and right hand on grip, forearms braced on knees, is about as steady for me as it gets: my groups are maybe 10% larger this way than off sandbags on a bench. And it lets me use my left eye to sight. Is this legal?


From Rick.Fox.0201913@nt.com Rick Fox

A seated rifle-style position, left hand on fore-end and right hand on = grip, forearms braced on knees, is about as steady for me as it gets: my groups = are maybe 10% larger this way than off sandbags on a bench. And it lets me = use my left eye to sight. Is this legal? Lee

Lee, Freestyle means just that - anything you can come up with, including = Creedmore, dead-frog, pretzel, prone, etc. The only requirement is that = your handgun must be supported by your body and nothing else (the ground, = the top of your cowboy boots).

Those with rear-grip unlimited guns usually use the dead-frog position, = and the production & center-grip unlimited folks usually use the = creedmore position, since it provides a 3-point anchor: elbow against the = ground, hand & grip against your hip, and forend against your calf.

Bottom-line: do whatever feels the steadiest.


I know I'm going to regret this, but...what the ^%$#% is the "dead-frog" position?


From Rick.Fox.0201913@nt.com

Imagine lying on your back, with your legs crossed, and your knees spread = apart until they are relaxed as close to the floor as possible. Then you = lay the handgun across your right thigh and calf with the grip at your = hip joint. When it is right, the gun will sit in place without using your = hand at all.

It is great for the young folks, but at 43, I don't have the flexibility = I used to. When I try it, the other shooters have to wear ear protection = just to drown out the groaning. ;-)

 
 
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